Everybody hates BYBs?

My definition of BYB:

A pet owner who breeds their pet dog, with no or little knowledge of what they are doing.

Why is this bad?

Well, first of all, breeding is a risky process. Even the actual breeding act can cause injury to one or both partners, plus the possibility of STDs.

BYBs don’t know about proper prenatal care for the b*tch, so that she is in good shape for whelping and so that the pups have the best possible start.

Then whelping is risky. Sure, most of the time it goes pretty smoothly, but if there are complications then the life of the mother and puppies is at risk. BYBs don’t know the signs that their b*tch is in trouble, don’t know how to help her,don’t know when to call the vet, don’t want to call the vet, don’t have the money for the vet, or whatever. So their b*tch suffers needlessly, or even dies, because the owner delays getting help for her.

BYBs don’t know about proper puppy rearing, how to tell if a puppy is in trouble, when to start feeding them etc. Again, lots of puppies suffer and die because of ignorance, laziness, and cheapness/lack of money.

BYBs don’t know how to properly screen homes, they generally sell their pups to anybody that has the cash. So lots of these pups end up in unsuitable homes, and eventually either end up in shelters, stuck in the back yard, abused, or abandoned.

And there’s the fact that BYBs don’t know how to properly select breeding animals in the first place. They breed their pet, to whatever male is most convenient and cheapest, regardless of quality, health, temperament etc. I’ve seen plenty of pet owners breed their dogs with poor temperaments, or serious health issues, or hereditary defects. So the pupies that come from BYBs are more likely to have problems, more likely to be given up or euthanized by their frustrated owners.

And BYBs don’t have the knowledge (or the inclination) to help out owners with their new puppy. If you’re getting a pup from a reputable breeder, they have LOTS of knowledge about their breed, dogs, raising a pup etc. and they’ll be more than happy to answer your questions or try to help if you have a problem with their pup. So if you’re having problems raising your pup, and again you don’t know where to turn, again you’re more likely to give the pup up or put it down.

These are just a few of the reasons why we frown on BYBs

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Hey…heads up. Know what a licensed breeder is, more often than not?

A puppy mill. They are the ones that get licensed through the USDA-United States Department od Agriculture.

The dogs are no more than a cash crop to them.

BYBs are nothing but mini puppy mills, with a couple b*tches rather than 30 or 50 or more. In either case, there is no health testing done, no regard to the welfare of the puppies. The only concern is how much money they will put in the pockets of the greeder.

Show breeders and hobby breeders are the ones that CARE about their breed, the dogs and resulting puppies. These are the breeders that health test, that show and/or work their dogs in performance events. They research pedigrees carefully for just the right match up genetically, not just the convenient dog down the street. They offer health guarantees and contracts.

They would NEVER breed MUTTS.

They are the only ones that have any right to breed.

For me the term BYBer applies to people who have more than one breeding pair and are purposely breeding their dogs to profit only, not for the betterment of the breed. They do not follow breed standard, breeding ethics for their breed, or take the time to follow basic genetic testing that a responsible registered breeder does. Their dogs are a cash cow to them….period. licensed or unlicensed…if the breeds code of ethics is not followed and the breeder is breeding his/her dogs for profit…it’s BYBing. basically, a puppy mill only small scale.

their dogs could very well be passing down unwanted traits either behaviorally or genetically because they do not bother testing.

Now for the other set of people on here, those whose dogs get pregnant by what they call “accident”. there is no such thing as an accident when it comes to this. it’s called irresponsibility. if a person has a pet dog, and has NO intentions of having a litter that dog SHOULD for their peace of mind, as well as the health of their dog have the dog spayed/neutered. it’s just common sense. to have an intact dog and not supervise them 1% of the time is just asking for a so called “accident” to happen.

it’s a lapse in judgement, and yes one could say naive.

the reason i take this stance is simple. i volunteer as a foster home for the SPCA in the county i live in, and i foster these “accidental” puppies all the time. it’s happening far too often. this year I’ve fostered so far 5 litters. ( i usually get mom and litters, or older litters- to socialize and work on potty training before they are vetted and approved for adoption).

there are also those people who want their precious dog to have “Just one litter”…it’s unnecessary, and if you saw how MANY young dogs and puppies 12 weeks of age and older were put down every day in the city pound in which we get most of our rescued litters…you’d understand why i feel this way.

I do think the term BYBer is thrown around a bit too much. like i said, there are puppy mills, BYBers, and then there are just the plan ignorant irresponsible owners.

Source(s): Owned by 4 dogs, ASPCA member, SPCA volunteer and foster home.

Being a BYB has nothing to do with licenses or how much you care about your dogs.

You will find a lot of people have their own defintion, like only BYBs treat their dogs back or they literally have the pups in the backyard.

That is not the case.

One of the best definitions I have read was on an ASCPA site (I can’t find right now) that defined a BYB as the “average pet owner that breeds their dog”.

In order to understand what a BYB is you need to understand what a reputable breeder is.

A reputable breeder spends years learning their breed, working with the breed, has a breeding mentor they learn from. They learn the lines (pedigrees), and what those lines are known for, whether it is a certain temperment or a certain health problem, and all the genetics behind breeding. THEN they breed.

Reputable breeders breed to improve the breed, not to produce pet quality puppies. There are pet quality puppies in even the best breedings, plus thousands in shelters.

They do health clearnaces on the parents, like OFA for hips, CERF for eyes and possibly others depending on the breed. If one does NOT do these, they is a BYB, hands down, no arguments. Health clearances are vital. No dog with bad hips, etc, should be bred. That is a hereditary diseasae and you are only creating more unhealthy dogs.

They also title or work their dogs. They do this to prove the dog is an exeption example of the breed and not just in their opinion. I prefer German Shepherds, working titles or even just working, shows me they are the dog they were meant to be.

No titles or work= BYB (that one is not always agreed on)

Reputable breeders screen their puppy buyers and offer contracts with health guarantees, a lifetime of support and are willing to take the dog back at any time during the dog’s life. THis helps prevent their dogs from ending up in shelters contributing to the overpopulation. Good breeders want to know what they have produced. If they find some of their pups developing issues, they know it is from their breeding and do what they can to fix it, even if it means spaying the *****.

If they will sell to pretty much anyone (advertise on kijiji, craiglist, etc) they are BYB. Hands down.

Reputable breeder often have waiting lists for their next couple of litters.

BYBs also do things like let the puppies go too early, mix breeds, etc.

And no, most of the people on here aren’t looking for the best for their dog.

If you are going to breed and be a halfway decent breeder, you do not ask on a forum like this. You LEARN from reputable sources, not from Yahoo answers.

Most of these people are intentionally breeding their dog for the wrong reasons, its cute, it would be a great mom (please), they need the money, they spent enough money on the dog, they should get some back, or, my favorite, to experience the miracle of life.

BYBs are responsible for ruining breeds and pet overpopulation. They breed for no regard of what the dog should be. They breed supersized or micro sized dogs, out of standard. Big deal right? A dog that was meant to be 80lbs that is bred to be 120lbs will experience a shorter lifespan and many joint issues. It is a big deal. Likewise with breeding super small. It is not healthy.

There are tons of dogs out there with poor nerves because the BYB didn’t bother to take into account temperment. Temperement and aggression ARE inherited.

Stick around a little while and read some of the breeding questions where someone’s dog is about to give birth and they are now looking for advice, even though they knew 63 days ago their dog would have puppies.

TU to Basset, well said.

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Wanting to do what is best for your dog is not breeding her unless you know what you are doing (asking on YA shows you don’t know what you are doing). And if an accident happens, you go to the vet and get as much advice as you can and start learning (again not on YA)

It only counts for irresponsible breeders who breed dogs who are not registered, “designer breeds”, ones that over breed, etc.

People usually despise them mainly because it takes away the chance for dogs in shelters to get a home. Millions die every year because people think dogs from a breeder are better.

Another reason is that breeding takes away from the life expectancy of the mother. Dogs are susceptible to more illnesses when they are not spayed/neutered. The typical BYB is doing it solely to make money off a quick breed. There are no health checks done on the parents, therefor there could be diseases passed along to the puppies. Licensed Breeders know the history of the dogs they’re breeding, and breed out any health problems they can. *hips, eyes, etc*

Don’t breed or buy while shelter pets die (:

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No not every non registered person is a back yard breeder. A good owner who lets a dog have a litter for certain reasons for a one off is not technically a breeder. However they should still go for all the checks and have all the safeguards a decent registered breeder have.

A byb is usually a breeder or owner who breeds with no thought,regard or knowledge, of their dogs. Often doing it for money yet starting out with SO little they cannot cover their dogs medical expenses and health checks. The dogs are often over bred, and can be badly looked after. (overcrowded, bred too young or old, or even ill or injured). Sadly some owners (not breeders) do mate their dogs without researching first. Then when they have problems start asking basic questions which they would have known if they had basic knowledge about their dogs.

Sadly the dogs of first time breeders who do no research whatsoever, can be just as much a victim of those owned by the much hated bybs.

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Wow… It’s only from reading answers on this site that now realise that breed snobbery is still present and more prominent than ever. I have two dogs, both are fully vaccinated, cared for and loved. But my dog has recently become pregnant and some users have jumped on me for this. There is very little I can do in a situation like this, but the puppies will be cared for, immunised and given good homes.

I agree that the term BYB is thrown around on this site, with different users adding their own little titbit of information and anecdotes ranging from logical (animal welfare) to downright snobbery (Kennel club & “damaging the breed”)

How on earth is a new breed created without another one being altered and bred with another? Grow up and look further than the ridiculousness. If someone is an animal lover and cares for their pet to the best of their ability then no one has the right to judge.

Here’s the deal- Every time one dog has a litter – after 6 years your one dog could be responsible for as many as 70,0 dogs- there are way too many animals being abused and abandoned and killed every day for any one not to be responsible enough to get their dog fixed- Just because one person cares for the puppies when they are first Born does not mean that everyone who encounters those dogs will- Animals are abused.. Sickly- It’s disgusting what humans do to them- for no reason- I have a hard time finding compassion for ANYONE who would put a animal in that position- It’s your Dog nd it’s your responsibility.

People just don’t think ahead- they think that every person treats animals like they do and it’s not true- People poor battery acid on dogs and chain them up- Fight them beat them.. why would anyone want one of their dogs puppies to have to go through that?

People need to open their eyes and stop being so selfish..

A BYB is someone is adding crap bred dogs to the pet population. They don’t health test the dogs or show/work the dogs. They have pets around the house and they breed for money and don’t care what happens to the pups.

Here is a list of what a BYB is and why they are bad.

http://www.pbrc.net/breeding3.html

BYBs damage the breed. Good breeders better the breed and produce health pups for purposes.

EDIT: Your not getting the point. GOOD breeders wont come on YA and ask for breeding advice because they have already researched it and *know* what they are doing or they have a mentor to help them. Only BYB idiots come on here and say something like….my dog is having her first litter what do I do?….You should already know what to do and research it frist! BYBs are the cause of health issues and bad temperaments in all dogs! Good breeders test there dogs for everything! There was a blind bull terrier in the shelter. Know why? A BYB produced and didn’t test for eyes and now the dog is blind because that person didn’t research it. That’s SICK! Poor dog and worse it ends up in the pound because the breeder wont accept the dog back.

It goes so much deeper than you are willing to understand. They are breeding sick dogs and its not fair to the dogs or the people!!!

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Everyone hates BYBs because they only add to the growing dog population and they do it selfishly. They get termed BYBs because they only do it for the money. They couldn’t care less about the dog’s safety, health, and breed requirements. REAL breeders spend tons of money and many years researching and perfecting their craft; their main goal is to breed healthy pups and improve blood lines.

THe licenses show more than what the license states, it shows that the breeder has the piece of mind to get one and that they are willing to spend money to do what is best for the pup.

BYBs and puppymills are pretty much one-in-the same as they are solely doing it for a paycheck.

I hope i helped clarify the difference.